[aymara] Prophetic Aymaras

["Alex Condori" <lista2@xxxxxxxxx>]

kamisasktasa? Don (kamisasipktasa? list jilatanaka)

> We believe, as outlined in the Book of Mormon that the Aymaras are direct
> descendants of  ancient prophets that sailed from the biblical lands to
the
> Americas.

Are we talking of the Aymaras only? or the native peoples of the Americas
as a whole?

> ( I read in an earlier message that
> someone cited Aymara as the closest thing to the Adamic langrage?

Yes, I heard it also. However, such statement makes no sense
because we don't know what the adamic language was, so even less
we can measure the degree of closeness of Aymara to an
unknown language. By the way, there is no reason to think
that the "Adamaic" could be considered a semitic language.

> Anyway the families sailed and landed  on the west
> coast of South America

How can be that area so accurately located? I
don't think the Book of Mormon says "they
landed on the west coast of South America".
What is the method mormons used to reach to
such conclusion from the text?

> I believe in the area of Northern Chile  ( will have
> to look that up to be sure)

Please, look it up.

> I find it interesting to note that the
> scriptures make great pains to reference that both groups took written
> records with them

Both groups?? were there more than one group?

> to 1. preserve Gods commandments, 2. keep their
> genealogies and 3. to preserve their LANGUAGES.  I find that last one
> interesting in light of the ongoing discussion of the perfect language
> question here in this discussion.

But if they came from Jerusalem, they should
have talked Hebrew (or Aramaic, depending on what
period we are talking about)

> We believe tat following the crucifixion of
> Christ, Christ indeed himself came to the Americas and taught them and
> established his law on that content, organized 12 Apostles etc.  The
people
> here experienced the three days of darkness,  devastation, earthquakes
etc.
> at the time of the crucifixion.  When we were translating the book of
> Mormon into Aymara we found as we searched for proper wording and
> translations of these passages,  the Oldest Ayamaristas could relate very
> curious stories or legends with great detail and resemblance to those in
> the Book of Mormon that had been passed down verbally generation to
> generation.

Well, the andean peoples have always had traditions
about great cataclisms and they relate stories
of a huge flood where the diferent nations originated.
Those cataclisms are violent transitions between
cosmic ages, and are called Pachakuti in Quechua.
In fact, the arriving of the europeans was considered
one of these Pachakuti.

I can supposse that the ancient tradiction of
Wiraxucha has been found very valuable to Mormons.

> The book ( gold engraven
> plates ) is buried in a hillside before the last great battle

last? who for? There where native americans and
also battles and wars when europeans arrived.

> While serving my mission, it was commonly stated that Aymara is the
closest
> existing language to that which Lehi and Nephi spoke.

I keep on thinking they should have talked Hebrew  :-)

> Is this at least close to what you were asking?  if not let me know and I
> will try to stay on topic.

Yes, it's a general view, although I think it could
be applied to any of the native peoples. Never
mind, I don't expect the Book of Mormon to be
more specific (and I don't expect it to say
"the aymaras...").

Thanks, Don

waliki

Alex